Hola de alemania


Faxe

New Member
Hello at all,

I am sorry, i am dont speak spanish. Only english or german ..... SORRY..... :mentirosoo:


My name is Tom and i am 43 years old, i had drive a Yamaha XVS 125 Drag Star many years ago. Now i want to ride again .....:mola:

For fast driving i have my 500 HP AMG and to drive at work and for cruising, i want to buye a new bike....
I am looking for a Leonard Pilder 125 :aplauso:

I hope for interesting dialogs an many fun with this very interesting forum :rocking:

With best regards, Tom
 

Fireball

Well-Known Member
Welcome!
This is the biggest motorbike forum in spanish, so, may have some handicap on communication but google translate will be you ally. Don't give up on trying!

How is the law in Germany? Are you able to ride a 125cc with a car driving license? or you have some motorcycle license to ride?
 

sergio_902

Well-Known Member
Servus,

Ich wohne in Deutschland seit einem Jahr. Seit ein paar Monaten ist mein Motorrad hier.

In Spanien darf man ein 125er-Motorrad mit einem 3 Jahre alten Autoführerschein fahren. Deshalb gibt es in Spanien viele 125er und viele Information.
Über dieses Modell weiß ich nicht viel, aber ich kenne Leute, die das Daytona haben und sehr zufrieden sind.
 

gurruvip

Well-Known Member
Desde luego las Leonardo han mejorado mucho en los últimos años. Una Honda Shadows 125 seria similar a la yamaha.
Las Leonard la considero muy caras para lo que son. 500 cv? Eso vuela?
 

Faxe

New Member
Holla "gurruvip"

Hello, yes the Honda and the yamaha are nice and good. But, the Pilder is a very looking good bike and the biggest what i am want at this time. Its looking good, but i have a little bit scary for the chinese construction of this. I want to buye a Pilder, but this bike had costst by 5000 Euro in germany. By this price i am must be sure, that the bike is ok for riding at many years. Now, the construction is china, and i am looking for infomations at this bikes. In spain are this bikes are many years ago under drive. Thats my interesting..... I am only drive a 125ccm ...... (in germany ,-))
 

Faxe

New Member
Welcome!
This is the biggest motorbike forum in spanish, so, may have some handicap on communication but google translate will be you ally. Don't give up on trying!

How is the law in Germany? Are you able to ride a 125cc with a car driving license? or you have some motorcycle license to ride?

At last year, we can in germany drive a 125ccm with the car licens. We must go to a driving scool, cost it by 650 Euro , an then you can drive a 125cc .....
Must be have a license for Car over 5 Years and an older for 25 degrees.
 
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Tenorio

Well-Known Member
Si una Pilder cuesta 5.000 chucherías en Alemania, ¿cuánto cuesta una MT 125, 6.500?

Detrás de la Pilder andamos muchos, a mi me gusta mucho, el problema es que en España para comprarla tienes que reservarla en la web previo pago de 100€, esperar 2 meses a que te la traigan, y antes de pasar por aduanas pagar el resto de la moto al contado. Todo esto sin ver siquiera la moto en persona.

Quieren darle una posición de exclusividad a la moto y al final es lo que es... fabricación en China, no tiene ABS... es una más. Me parece mucho más "exclusiva" una Fantic Caballero por todo, pero bueno.
 

sergio_902

Well-Known Member
Si una Pilder cuesta 5.000 chucherías en Alemania, ¿cuánto cuesta una MT 125, 6.500?

Detrás de la Pilder andamos muchos, a mi me gusta mucho, el problema es que en España para comprarla tienes que reservarla en la web previo pago de 100€, esperar 2 meses a que te la traigan, y antes de pasar por aduanas pagar el resto de la moto al contado. Todo esto sin ver siquiera la moto en persona.

Quieren darle una posición de exclusividad a la moto y al final es lo que es... fabricación en China, no tiene ABS... es una más. Me parece mucho más "exclusiva" una Fantic Caballero por todo, pero bueno.
Lo he mirado por curiosidad y la MT 125 cuesta 4.800
 

Faxe

New Member
Welcome!
This is the biggest motorbike forum in spanish, so, may have some handicap on communication but google translate will be you ally. Don't give up on trying!

How is the law in Germany? Are you able to ride a 125cc with a car driving license? or you have some motorcycle license to ride?
Holla,
Si una Pilder cuesta 5.000 chucherías en Alemania, ¿cuánto cuesta una MT 125, 6.500?

Detrás de la Pilder andamos muchos, a mi me gusta mucho, el problema es que en España para comprarla tienes que reservarla en la web previo pago de 100€, esperar 2 meses a que te la traigan, y antes de pasar por aduanas pagar el resto de la moto al contado. Todo esto sin ver siquiera la moto en persona.

Quieren darle una posición de exclusividad a la moto y al final es lo que es... fabricación en China, no tiene ABS... es una más. Me parece mucho más "exclusiva" una Fantic Caballero por todo, pero bueno.

Yes, you are right. No ABS or better CBS.....
OK, its driving Bikes......
I am a driver who have many years ago, a Yamaha V-Max..... i am now what bike driving ist ;-)
The qustion ist, whether you can trust the technology from china....?

We have in germany no experience of this bike.....
I am do not need a ABS, but is the rest in good quality?

With best regards, Tom
 

Faxe

New Member
Lo mismo que aquí pues... Y por qué una Leonart es más cara que una Yamaha en Alemania? Esto puede ser interesante...
Hola,

I am think, we com down from my first question....
Yamaha and Honda, all this Bikes are beautyful......

Here we have question for the only "Pilder"

Here in germany is this bike a exotic vehicle and as new, no experinces.....
In spain a lot of many years, these vehicles are driven.

Please don't get me wrong, I would be happy to tell you if I should buy it.
But need real information, from drivers who have one.
 

falconwar

Well-Known Member
Hola,

I am think, we com down from my first question....
Yamaha and Honda, all this Bikes are beautyful......

Here we have question for the only "Pilder"

Here in germany is this bike a exotic vehicle and as new, no experinces.....
In spain a lot of many years, these vehicles are driven.

Please don't get me wrong, I would be happy to tell you if I should buy it.
But need real information, from drivers who have one.
You should ask at the Leonart Fan Club in Spain:
https://www.foroleonartmotorcycles.com/

Long story short, those bikes had some quality/finish problems at the very beginning but it seems that last models have fixed those issues and are acceptable bikes now.
 

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